Been doing an in-depth study on the unbelieving believer as this is being address to all of us thru the Holy Spirit (Watch and see. ) aka the powerless disciples per the KJV

While its not complete enough to be shared
What I would say is this…

Ive been studying these very same verses for over a month now. My studies started with one purpose that was so amazing and I had no idea that I would be returned to these verses for yet another topic of discussion.

Here are the verses…
Mark 9
Matthew 17

You are going to hear a lot of different people all over who are anointed speaking of the unbelieving believer.

As much as I want to share now I will only give this one part at this time…

What the father said is key
“I have faith. But where I lack give me more”
You can ask for more faith.

But remember…
God told us…
“Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God”

So what you might find is that at the core of the believers unbelief is the lack of time spent in the presence of the Lord because it is spent doing other things.

This is why Jesus told the disciples that some things you can’t get rid of except by prayer and fasting. But…

People think that fasting means not eating. Fasting that God approves of is found at Isaiah 58. ….

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Let me stop here and revisit this when I have finished receiving all that is being poured into me as i was led to consider all of Mark starting at chapter 1… And leading up to chapter 9.

This is so interesting.

So the question was asked:

Yes Jodi this is some good meat and I’m tracking but I have a question. You mention the “unbelieving believers”. Isn’t it just like the saying “she is a little pregnant”? She either is or isn’t right? So is a unbelieving believer truly a believer? 🤔

An unbelieving believer is a believer that is powerless due to their unbelief. Catch this , I didn’t coin that phrase. Jesus himself addressed it catch this… Not with the world… But with his own disciples. That’s right with the 9 who couldnt heal the boy. So get this now… This is crazy… Initially I am looking at these verses weeks ago as I battled a strong man that tried to 1. Set up camp in my house (that was a no no) 2. Then it tried to remove the individual (that was a no no too. I was clinging to every scripture where Jesus healed. And referencing that verse about the legions I declared that thing has to go but the individual stays. Now its crazy but I’m at war and I kept saying like the father of the boy with seizures “I have faith but where I lack give me more” and the Saturday we went to Tallahassee I fasted – got attacked again – kept fasting and praying – and by the time I headed home I had my answer and won that battle. I also clung to the battle young David had with Goliath and even thru the breakthroughs I kept fighting until I knew I slit the giants throat.)

Now i was posting about all of that and I know people looked at me like I was crazy as many do. But I believe Gods Word and so I fight.

Now what I didn’t expect was to be taken back to those very verses that I used to do battle because of an issue where I’m standing in the gap in reference to the tool of the enemy called offense.

I’m taken back and i am made to look at the disciples of Christ.

Now I have a Dake’s KJV and I am made to look at this account from there. Now check this out…

Jesus was talking to the 9
He was talk not to the crowd but privately to his own.

And I stumbled across something which is in part why I haven’t posted on it yet.

I think they were operating in some offense

The same type of offense that Miriam had when she ended up being struck with leprosy by God.

I’m still looking at this.

But what I did see so far is that there was no reason for them not to have Been able to heal the boy

I was sent to begin looking at the very beginning of Mark which is how I discovered that there was some offense going on too.

Offense and maybe even some jealousy.

Jesus had to keep dealing with this issue with his disciples. On more than one occasion he addressed their unbelief. But many times because of the Pharisees and or Saducees being present it was easy for me to transfer that rebuke over to them.

But nope Jesus was talking to his own.

Even after he died and was resurrected Thomas still had that yeast (beware of the yeast of the Pharisees – remember Jesus warned constantly of that) Thomas would not believe that Jesus was resurrected until he touched the holes in his hands and the piercing in the side.

So I’m back in Mark looking now at chapter 2 recognizing that it is faith (believing) that caused people to get their healing and realizing that there were more people with the same issues and not every one got healed only a few. Why… Lack of faith.

So I am steady looking, scanning, searching for something though not sure what. And in Chapter 2 I see the calling of Levi (Matthew). So now there are 5 who are closely walking with Jesus. I don’t know why I assumed that all 12 followed at the same time. Then more healings were done.

Now I am in chapter 3 of mark.

People were following Jesus.
He had already called 5. But in chapter 3 he now calls the rest and ordains them and he gave them power to heal the sick and cast out demons. (Mark 3:14,15)

He gave them the authority to do that. Bingo. There was no reason why they should have been able to heal the boy in chapter 9 with no problem.

But …

Why couldn’t they.

Jesus said it was because of their unbelief

Now I’m looking at this even now. Writing all of this even as I read and research it. Letting every one in on my personal time with the Lord.

I am now able to go back to Mark 9 without flipping back and forth because I found what the Holy Spirit sent me to look for… In Mark 3. Jesus gave them the power.

So my question is what happened then to these 9.

There is more to my question. I’m trying to figure out the right question to ask. But for now I go back to chapter 9 and not to that incident but to the beginning of chapter 9

Omg. I just saw it again. So chapter 9 deals with the transfiguration.

Vs 6 peter speaks but he spoke out of confusion and fear.

Now there is something there but I’m not yet touching it because I have a question to ask the Holy Spirit but I dont know the English words to formulate the question

So I continue reading down to verse 10 where they have questions that they ask each other but don’t speak of because Jesus told them not to until he rose from the dead.

So this is what the foot note says…

More unbelief just on a different level.

So now check out this unbelief…
Jesus told them he was going to die and they didn’t want to believe it.

Sometimes our unbelief comes from us not wanting to believe something to be true because we don’t want it to be true. Because we try to will things to not be true and therefore you have the comment of Jesus to God Almighty in the garden of Gethsemane where he said in prayer “yet not as I will, but as YOU will.”

So some unbelief can come from wanting our own will over God’s will instead of subjecting ourselves to the will of God.

Now catch this Jesus said in Luke…”why do you call me Lord Lord but do not do as I say”

He is talking to the believer. Because only the believer is going to say to Jesus Lord Lord.

He also said that the only one who will enter into the kingdom of God is the one who will do God’s will.

Therefore it is imperative that we begin now to pray and say like the father of the boy… “I have faith but where I lack give me more faith.”

Why this is so.important is because of Matthew 7:21-23 take note of v.22 there will be some who don’t make it in.

So if you noticed I stopped saying Christian and started saying Believer.

The reason why is because many call themselves Christians but their lifestyle contradicts what they call themselves.

Because I know that Jesus said signs miracles and wonders will follow those who believe you will hear me referring to myself as a Believer.

But this in Matthew 7 pushes me further.

Jesus said at v.16 that we will be known by our fruits. v.17,18 are we good or corrupt

We dont have to guess because those fruits are identified in Galatians 5:19-26.*

These are things we can address in ourselves now. But an unbelieving believer would justify their own sin and think to themselves that because they are good in other areas or because the sin is not a “big” one listed like fornication homosexuality addictions that it will be overlooked but that is not true. Idolatry jealousy hatred strife over eating as well as over drinking being competitive debating seditions is all sin too. And Gods word is clear about the judgment that will be received in Gal 5:21

Whew.

I have faith but where I lack give me more.

And Jesus tells us what to do Galatians 5:24 crucify the flesh… Aka fast

“Some things cannot be gotten rid of except by prayer and fasting”

Whew this was good. But my family is up and stirring and calling for me so I have to go now. I pray this, my personal study time shared, has blessed others as it has blessed me.

The comments might seem all over the place but its all here even in the subcomments.

Normally I write it all out on paper then share it here but I thank God for those who were used to cause me to return to the study I started yesterday morning and finish more of it.

I think it’s done but I’m not sure. I simply have to wait to see what the Tutor/Teacher does next. Lol (John 15:26,27 ; 1 John 2:26-28)

And yes there was a part 2

July 31 2022 as I read over this I am reminded of the answer that was given to me on May 29 2022 as to why the 9 disciples were powerless. The Holy Spirit explained to me that this was because they were operating out of their own strength and not from the power of the Lord. King Jesus is the power and it’s important that we get up and get in HIS presence every morning to be filled for the day. But when we don’t we end up operating out of fumes.

Jesus said some things we cant get rid of except through prayer and fasting. People think this means not eating food but this means that we get up and get in the presence of the Lord and listen for direction from the Lord. They were not doing that as many are not doing it today.